deviant art

Deviant Login Shop  Join deviantART for FREE Take the Tour
[x]
more ▶

Featured in Groups:

Details

August 17, 2009
Link
Thumb

Statistics

Comments: 140
Favourites: 0
Views: 547 (1 today)
[x]

Ramble on!

Mon Aug 17, 2009, 9:42 PM
Apologies in advance: since english is not my first language plus I'm not too good with writing efficiently what I mean (I need an editor!), it does ramble on a bit.

A few journals ago, someone gave me a very interesting comment (thank you for that).
I had once again posted images related to "The Last Airbender" film, and the person wrote: "how can you still support that movie?"
Am I supporting it?
I don't know.

I guess my viewpoint is from someone that's been on the other side of the production fence. I get excited by production art, designs, storyboards. I cheer the creative people who create the costumes, the sets, the props, the special effects, the sound effects, the music, etc.
I have sympathy for the demands of production, the deadlines, the restrictions, the meddlings, the artistic choices made and think of the common effort all these people do to make the best work they can with what they have.
I've been there. It's work.

You do what you have to, to the best of your abilities.
I support the crew. All the cogs in that huge machine that makes a movie happen and are not always appreciated to their true value.

Will this make a good movie? Not necessarily. I won't judge until I see it.
It will rise or fall on its own. This is not the animated serie, more like an AU fanfic based off "Avatar, The Last Airbender".
I separate the two.
There are movies out there that I love the designs but don't particularly care for the story.
As Sokka once said "At least the effects were decent".

The thing that would sadden me the most is if Viacom-Nickelodeon forget about their source, the original animated serie, as if it never existed.
It's as if being asked to forget and accept only the film.
Nope, sorry, that's not how it works.

Whoa, that went on way too long. Sorry about that.
Here, have some production art!

First from the animated serie:
:iconrick0404: posted an animatic from the Finale. Some great storyboard work from Seung-Hyun Oh
:thumb133761138:
Click download to see a quicktime video.
Warning: huge file. Slow connections beware!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CLUBS
:iconirohs-tea-time: :iconfrothersfans: :iconnoselfcontrol: :iconavatard-directory:
  • Mood: Homesick
  • Listening to: Radio-Canada
  • Reading: Fortean Times
  • Watching: Nothing right now
  • Playing: Nothing right now
  • Eating: food (may vary)
  • Drinking: Water
Add a Comment:
 
:iconprimula-pixie:
I'm pretty harsh on movies based off of something exsisting(I seriously wanted to find Christopher Paolini and torture him after the Eragon movie). But it doesn't stop me from enjoying a movie if its good (I still want to torture Paolini for the late release of the third book because of that shitty movie. It was terrible even if you didn't read the book). I was mildly irritated at Prince Caspian for not following the book very well, but I still like the movie( and Caspian was hot... What? I'm a 16 year old girl.).
I'm gonna give the movie a chance before I decide it's terrible or not. Who knows, maybe they found the perfect actors for The Last Airbender. Who really cares if all of the actors aren't asian? I personally don't.
Reply
:iconankh-mage:
I'd really like this movie to turn out well, I'm trying to not have any expectations, because when a movie like this goes down, it goes down hard. But the teaser looked promising, sets look very well done, and I'm still alittle 'iffy' on the cast, but so far nothing has screamed the movie is going to fail, well for me anyway.
I'm glad that you point out the other people who work on the movie that they do the best with that they have, sometimes it's hard to see that.
Reply
:iconwithchy-pooh:
Well, my point of view on this goes a little like this:

Adapted stories be it a book/comic/cartoon/sitcon turning into a movie, or a remake of an old succesful movie into a new nowadays friendly movie are more often than investors, producers and studies would wish a gamble.

Those works work in themselves just fine they way they are. Such works worked so well in the medium that they have because were written and created in the best way for such medium. Therefore is seem obvious that they will pose creative bumps when translated to any other medium.

Telling people that of course wil not stop them from wanting to make money out of a popular idea or force millions of fans to not get exited over the idea. I personally think a movie is good because is good and is bad because is bad, perhaps is even worse if it also ruins a story that could have been good.

The fact that can make a movie good is not in what work is it in based, it is not how good the wardrobes, background shoots, or props look like (although if is it going to be bad, the least they can do is pamper you visually), is the script. The script works as the core of how the story is it going to be told.

If the original work contains unique story-telling and a certain pace and the script doesn't. It is going to be more likely not only to turn as a bad adaptation but also as a unremarkably regular action/fantasy/drama/whatever story. Because more often than we like Hollywood writes stories around wish washed formulas.

So to speak: if you take the coolnes away is not going to be cool anymore, it will be just like the rest of the movies in that genre it won't stand out.

Whenever I'm hitting my nearest theather I look more to promising stories or visually blowing trailers before going nuts about some movie I haven't even watched a bit yet.

I believe is best to take thing as the come, to like what you like and dislike what you dislike (and better for your liver). That way you could avoid sitting at the movies gritting your teeth, because you expected too much.
Reply
:iconcartoonjessie:
~CartoonJessie Aug 30, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Well said! But now I have to ask... what is your native language then?
Reply
:iconrufftoon:
French. French canadian to be precise.
Reply
:iconapicar:
~apicar Aug 28, 2009  Professional Filmographer
Reply
:iconinknose:
~INKNOSE Aug 25, 2009  Student Artist
Well said :) even though my expectations for the movie are low, I still really love seeing what the design/production team have come up with. And if it's not totally in line with the vision of the animated series, that doesn't mean it's worthless... it's a different medium, and basically a different story. At least looking at it that way is what keeps my peace of mind :D

(I was surprised to learn that English isn't your first language! I'd never have guessed.)
Reply
:icongoldenkite:
Well in truth I think when Nickolodeon makes movies they always do something that is ridiculously terrible. For the Avatar movie it really has to do with the choice of Director or whomever has the job to decide who plays which character. Dev Patel is a good pick, but I see him playing Sokka not Zuko.

Have you heard about the discussion Jeff Smith had with some Nickelodeon execs about making a Bone movie?
(From an interview w/Jeff Smith)
"Jeff: Nickelodeon did agree to no songs. In writing. So this pop-song thing was probably the turning point in the whole affair for me; this was about a year-and-a-half in. One day after lunch we sat down … and the executive there turned to me and said, “Okay. We can get $12 million right now if we put a pop song in the movie. So, Jeff – do you see somewhere in the body of the film where we could put a Britney Spears or an N’Sync song?”
AICN: Oh, my god.
Jeff: And I just turned and looked at Vijaya, we looked at each other, and I said, “No.” I mean, that’s not the kind of movie that we were making. I mean, you wouldn’t put a Britney Spears song in the middle of “The Empire Strikes Back” or the middle of “Lord of the Rings”. And because Vijaya had insisted that clause be in the contract, they couldn’t force me. Things went downhill rapidly after that."


So basically there will always be a flaw in a Nickelodeon movie and this also applies with any studio making a movie. Sometimes the biggest flaw is when something so incredibly bad/bland/uncreative gets blown up to be the next big "everybody loves it" media *cough*Twilight*cough*.
Reply
:iconkristi-chan:
It's sort of fascinating, in a way, to see how quickly people judge a movie, video game etc. just by looking at a few props (and in many cases, sooner than that! People severely judge teaser trailers for crying out loud!).
I'm not even going to talk about the casting issue, I'm tired of it. To quote a comment I saw on Youtube (for a different movie), "Just watch the damn movie."
As you've said, I'm making no judgment until I see it.
Reply
:iconl0opyme:
I would have never guessed that English isn't your first language. I always find your writing to be very captivating, and have a good flow to it. It's probably the reason why I single out reading your journal in the massive numbers of people that I watch ('cause I can't read them all).
Reply
Add a Comment: